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For most of us, the jump from meat-eater to vegetarian is a big one. For the giant panda, the switch was all too easy. Despite a long family history of meat-heavy meals, this large bear now feeds almost exclusively on tough bamboo – a change its ancestors made more than 2 million years ago.
For that reason, by all appearances, the giant panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca) is a herbivore. But escaping your roots has never been easy, and from one dietary perspective this black-and-white bear remains just as much a carnivore as many of its relatives.
Even though the giant panda has long-eschewed all meat, new research suggests that it continues to eat like a wolf (quite literally).
After years of tracking the animal's eating habits, scientists have now revealed that its favourite bamboo shoots are basically a kind of faux meat, given they're absolutely brimming with protein.
And pandas know it. Over the years, the researchers watched as these creatures climbed to ever greater heights, following the young shoots with low fibre content and high protein.
With half the panda's energy coming from protein alone, the researchers conclude that the bear's diet is less like a herbivore and more like a hyper-carnivore, similar to a feral cat or wolf. In fact, it's left the team wondering if the term 'herbivore' can even fully capture the true quirkiness of this giant mammal's diet.
"Based on what they eat, they absolutely belong to the herbivores, but considering the macronutrient composition of the ingested and absorbed diets, they belong to the carnivores," says researcher Fuwen Wei from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing.
Perhaps the giant panda is doomed to forever sit on this categorical fence. Over millions of years of evolution, the bear developed jaws, teeth and thumbs ideal for handling bamboo, but deep inside it holds a bloodthirsty secret that has largely gone unnoticed.
Unlike a herbivore, its digestive tract is short and unsuited to fibre digestion, while the enzymes and microbes in its gut speak volumes of its Carnivora clade. Both the panda's milk and poo were also found to contain high levels of protein, with the milk especially reminiscent of what carnivores suckle, in terms of its macronutrient makeup.
"In giant pandas, a short, carnivorous gut facilitates rapid throughput, and the high abundance and easy accessibility of bamboo enable large amounts to be eaten, compensating for low digestive efficiency," the authors explain.
In short, the findings suggest that giant pandas had to undergo few evolutionary adaptations to make the switch from meat to bamboo. There, sitting in front of them, was a seemingly endless source of protein-rich food that had everything they needed. All they had to do was eat a lot of it.
"If you're going to switch to a specific plant, bamboo isn't too bad, as it does have respectable plant protein levels, as well as a swathe of different vitamins," bacteriologist Garret Suen from the University of Wisconsin at Madison, who wasn't involved with the study, told The Atlantic.
Far from being an abrupt or extreme leap, as many have assumed, the argument for vegetarianism might have been easy for the giant panda to swallow.
This study has been published in Current Biology.

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Sheet Pan Pancakes – Golden, fluffy, and delicious giant pancake baked in the oven! Sheet Pan pancakes are perfect for feeding a crowd and they are ready in under 30 minutes.

I finally know what I’m going to serve for Mother’s Day Brunch tomorrow: Sheet Pan Pancakes! There’s nothing easier, trust me. And these Pancake Bites with a side of Sunrise Mimosas. I can’t host a brunch-crowd without that duo, and now trio.
Pancakes are a breakfast treat that everyone loves, but they are time consuming and require all your attention. However, with this pancake recipe, you don’t have to spend your morning standing in front of the stove, flipping pancakes, and they are VERY easy to prepare.
You know what I REALLY, honestly and totally LOVE about this recipe? The fact that I can make 2 sheet pans on a Sunday night, then slice the pancakes and keep in the fridge for a grab-and-go breakfast.

This is ridiculously easy. Basically, you just mix the pancake batter, pour it into a sheet pan, and bake in the oven for 17-ish minutes.

I think this is the laziest way to make pancakes and I LOVE IT! Whoever thought of the baked-pancake concept gets a standing ovation from me. Amazing, golden and puffy pancakes that come out perfect every time.

Need more ideas for Mother’s Day? Check out these amazing Mother’s Day Brunch Recipes.
ENJOY!
Sheet Pan Pancakes
Golden, fluffy, and delicious giant pancake baked in the oven! Sheet Pan pancakes are perfect for feeding a crowd and they are ready in under 30 minutes.
Course: Breakfast, Breakfast/Brunch, Snacks
Cuisine: American
Keyword: breakfast for a crowd, breakfast pancakes, brunch recipes, buttermilk pancakes, mother's day brunch
Servings: 12 servings
Calories: 203 kcal
Ingredients
Instructions
Preheat oven to 500˚F.
Lightly grease a 13x18 rimmed baking sheet with cooking spray and line with parchment paper; set aside.
Break eggs into a medium sized mixing bowl and whisk in buttermilk, honey, and vanilla. Set aside.
In a large mixing bowl, combine flour, baking powder, baking soda, salt, cinnamon, and nutmeg.
Whisk the buttermilk mixture into the flour mixture.
Whisk in the melted butter.
Mix just until combined; do not overmix. Batter will be lumpy.
Pour batter into the prepared baking sheet and spread it out evenly.
Top with sliced fresh berries and chocolate chips.
Reduce oven temperature to 425˚F.
Place sheet pan in the oven and bake for 16 to 17 minutes, or until a toothpick inserted in the center comes out clean.
Remove from oven and let stand 3 to 5 minutes.
Cut into 12 squares and serve with maple syrup.
Recipe Notes
WW FREESTYLE POINTS: 6 (per serving)
HOW TO STORE PANCAKES
Nutrition Facts
Sheet Pan Pancakes
Amount Per Serving (1 pancake square)
Calories 203 Calories from Fat 72
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 8g 12%
Saturated Fat 4g 20%
Cholesterol 60mg 20%
Sodium 406mg 17%
Potassium 193mg 6%
Total Carbohydrates 26g 9%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 4g
Protein 6g 12%
Vitamin A 6.1%
Calcium 11%
Iron 8.6%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.

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What is Ketogains?
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Two excerpts:
In guidelines released Tuesday, WHO issued its first recommendations to reduce the risk of dementia globally. They include regular physical exercise, not using tobacco, drinking less alcohol, maintaining healthy blood pressure and eating a healthy diet—particularly a Mediterranean one.
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“The Mediterranean diet is the most extensively studied dietary approach, in general as well as in relation to cognitive function,” the report said. “Several systematic reviews of observational studies have concluded that high adherence to the Mediterranean diet is associated with decreased risk of mild cognitive impairment and Alzheimer’s Disease, but modest adherence is not.”
Source: New global guidelines to reduce risk of dementia released
Steve Parker, M.D.

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Yesterday I lay in the sun for a while... and I pulled me tankini up to get some sun on me belly.
Whoops. Wrong move.
Me poor belly is rather pink today, and a bit sore. I'd show ya, but well... it's not a pretty sight, trust me!
So, no more sunbathing for now.
Well... the weather is supposed to be wet on and off for the next week at least, so chances are I wouldn't be out in the sun anyway!
It will be a shame if it's raining on Christmas Day... but not uncommon around here.
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Desiree Hunt has come a long way in the past few years. At 25 years old, she was 275 lbs and wore size 22 jeans. After an incredible weight loss journey, she's now a size 6 and looking better than ever.
On Instagram and at the gym, she's inspiring others to undergo their own transformations. If anything, she's proven that such amazing results are impossible without perseverance and hard work. In fact, she was able to achieve it all with no special diet, no program, no pills, no special foods, and no trainer.

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Instant Pot Sous Vide Egg Bites – a delicious version of the popular Starbucks menu item for you to make at home for a perfect high protein breakfast or snack.

When Starbucks first released their sous vide egg bites onto their menu, the world literally went crazy. But what was so good about these items? I have to admit I didn’t see what all the fuss was about until I tried some for myself. They are such a handy on the go meal to grab for a great protein boost.
Using the syn calculator, here are the syn values I got for the Starbucks egg bites:-
Which is not too bad really if you are out and need a portable quick lunch or breakfast.

But enjoying something like that each day is pretty pricey, so I figured it would be a great option to have a recipe where you can make some at home in your Instant Pot. Which I have seen many people doing all over the Instant Pot facebook community.

Those that follow my Instagram page, will know I love eggs, especially meals for breakfast that give me a decent amount of protein. I just find it keeps me well satiated for much longer if I start my day off good.
The first thing you will need of course is an Instant Pot or Pressure Cooker.
If you haven’t heard of an Instant Pot you are seriously missing out. It is the best kitchen gadget I have purchased. I love this thing so much, that I almost use it EVERY.SINGLE.DAY.
It seriously tops every kitchen appliance I have ever bought.
It is basically a 7in1 cooker, and it slow cooks, pressure cooks, saute’s, has settings for soup, chilli, rice, porridge and even makes yoghurt (I haven’t tried that yet).
Wondering what else you can cook in an Instant Pot or Pressure Cooker? Check out some of these recipes:
As well as an Instant, you will also need some of these Instant Pot Egg Bite Molds, I purchased two, as then you can do a double stack if you want to make extra. Although they don’t take long to make, so you can always set another lot going after the first lot is done, if you want to make more.
You can actually get one in this great Instant Pot Accessories Kit too which comes with a steamer basket for vegetables and a springform pan for making things like this Amazing Instant Pot Lasagne.
To work out the ratio of ingredients, I looked at the volume of space in the compartments of the egg mold and estimated how much I would need by that. Then used the basis of any of my Quiche Recipes which is generally eggs, cottage cheese, fillings and occasionally cheese. The ratio of ingredients was pretty much spot on for this recipe.
For the filling for your Sous Vide Egg Bites, you really can mix these up and go for all kinds of variations. The only thing I recommend is to not use anything that will release a lot of liquid as it cooks, otherwise these will not set properly. Certain vegetables that might release liquid like zucchini (courgette) for example. I recommend sauting first before adding into the mix.
I used some simple ham, chopped fresh spinach and cheddar and these Instant Pot Sous Vide Egg Bites were delicious.
Here are a few other suggestions:
- Bacon and Leek
- Roasted Vegetables
- Salmon and Broccoli
- Roasted Sweet Potato
- Artichoke and Parmesan
- Roasted Asparagus
- Broken up Sausage and Hash Brown
- Mushroom and Kale
you can also try different herbs, cheeses (as part of your healthy extra or Synned). The possibilities are endless, so long as you remember to be careful of foods that release liquid/juices. I personally prefer to add cheese to mine, it takes them to a whole other level. But they are just as delicious without too.
How can I add a 1/3 speed foods to these Instant Pot Sous Vide Egg Bites?
Choose speed foods for you fillings and serve alongside a helping of speed vegetables like a mixed salad or sauteed vegetables or even some fresh fruit. These are a great portable food item, so perfect for lunches and picnics too.
Kitchen Items I used for these Instant Pot Sous Vide Egg Bites?
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Yield: 7 Egg Bites
Instant Pot Sous Vide Egg Bites - a delicious version of the popular Starbucks menu item for you to make at home for a perfect high protein breakfast or snack.
Prep Time 10 minutes
Cook Time 9 minutes
Total Time 19 minutes
Ingredients
- 4 eggs
- 2/3 cup (approx 150g) of fat-free cottage cheese
- 60g (2oz) of cheddar cheese, grated
- handful of spinach, chopped
- 3 thin slices of extra lean ham, diced
- black pepper
- cooking oil spray
Instructions
- Add the eggs, cottage cheese and cheddar to a blender and blend until smooth.
- Grease the egg bite molds with cooking oil spray
- Add a little bit of the ham and spinach to each mold.
- Then pour in the egg mixture. Don't overfill. Around about 3/4 full is enough, as they will rise slightly when cooking, so if you over fill, they will spill over the top.
- Stir a little with a small spoon in each mold, just to ensure the filling is not all to the bottom of each mold.
- Season the top with black pepper (if using your own fillings and not using cheese, you may need a pinch of salt for seasoning)
- Cover the top of the egg bite mold with some aluminium foil (don't use the lid the molds come with)
- Add 1 cup (240ml) of water to the bottom of the instant pot. Place in the rack that comes with the Instant Pot. Then carefully place the egg bites mold onto of the rack.
- Add the lid (close valve if not self sealing), set to STEAM for 9 minutes. Once they have finished cooking, let the pressure release naturally for 9 minutes and then release any remaining pressure.
- Carefully lift the mold out of the instant pot. I use some silicone tongs (it will be hot, so remove with caution).
- Let to rest for a few mins and then carefully release out of the molds onto a plate.
- Enjoy!!!
Notes
This recipe is Gluten Free, Slimming World and Weight Watchers friendly
- Extra Easy - 1.5 syns per egg bite
- SP/Original - 1.5 syns per egg bite
- WW Smart Points - 2 per egg bite
NOTE: If using the cheese as part of your healthy extra A choice, then these are Syn Free.
*suitable for freezing
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Yield:
7Serving Size:
1 sous vide egg bite
Amount Per Serving:Calories: 98 Total Fat: 5.7g Saturated Fat: 2.7g Cholesterol: 120mg Sodium: 272mg Carbohydrates: 1.6g Fiber: 0.1g Sugar: 1.3g Protein: 10.1gNutritional information is an estimate and is to be used for informational purposes only. Ingredients can vary greatly from brand to brand and therefore it would be impossible to give accurate information.
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Die Erler Klagsflut – Zwischenstand
Aufgrund meiner Berichte und Dokumentationen über die Zustände bei den Tiroler Festspielen in Erl haben Kuhn & Co. zwölf Klagen gegen mich eingebracht. Acht davon, alle zivilrechtlich, sind noch anhängig, drei von Hans Peter Haselsteiner, drei von Gustav Kuhn und je eine von der Tiroler Festspiele Erl Betriebsges.m.b.H. und von Michael Krüger, der zugleich alle Genannten anwaltlich vertritt.
Haselsteiner I:
Klage auf Unterlassung wegen zweier Postings im dietiwag.org-Forum
Aktenzahl: 15 Cg 39/18i
Streitwert: EUR 100.000

Haselsteiner II:
Klage, lautend auf Kreditschädigung, weil ich das Forum geschlossen habe und Haselsteiner mir vorwirft, ich unterstellte ihm, diese Schließung erzwungen zu haben. Auch beanstandet er, dass ich durch Veröffentlichung seiner E-Mail-Adresse gegen das Datenschutzgesetz verstoßen hätte.
Aktenzahl: 6 Cg 49/18v
Streitwert: EUR 39.240

Haselsteiner III:
Mahnklage, weil ich ein Bild nicht gelöscht habe, das Haselsteiner bei der Verleihung des Ehrenzeichens des Landes Tirol durch Landeshauptmann Günther Platter 2012 zeigt.
Aktenzahl: 69 Cg 58/18f
Zahlungsbefehl: 15.000 Euro Sofortstrafe

Kuhn I:
Klage auf Unterlassung und Widerruf wegen des Vorwurfs „sexueller Übergriffe“ (zwei inhaltlich ähnliche Klagen nach dem Mediengesetz hat Kuhn nach zwei Zeuginnen-Aussagen zurückgezogen; Entschädigungsbegehren damals: EUR 50.000 und EUR 50.000); hier gab es am 8. Juni einen ersten kurzen Prozesstermin, bei welchem auf unbestimmte Zeit vertagt wurde.
Aktenzahl: 69 Cg 22/18m
Streitwert: EUR 60.000

Kuhn II:
Präventivklage (wegen Tatbegehungsgefahr) in einer Sache, über die ich noch keine einzige Zeile geschrieben, sondern zu der ich nur Gustav Kuhn um ein redaktionelles Gespräch gebeten habe. Die Forderung nach Einstweiliger Verfügung wurde vom Gericht abgewiesen, jene nach Unterlassung ist aufrecht.
Aktenzahl: 69 Cg 60/18z
Streitwert: EUR 69.620

Kuhn III:
Klage auf Unterlassung wegen des von mir angesprochenen, „im Raum stehenden Verdachts“ arbeitsrechtlicher Mängel in Erl; hier ermitteln zwischenzeitlich Arbeitsinspektorat, Gewerbepolizei und Finanzpolizei.
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Gustav Kuhn mit Begleitschutz bei der Verhandlung am 8. Juni 2018
Festspiele Erl Betriebsges.m.b.H.
Klage auf Unterlassung und Widerruf (ähnlich wie oben) wegen des von mir angesprochenen, „im Raum stehenden Verdachts“ arbeitsrechtlicher Mängel in Erl; hier ermitteln zwischenzeitlich Arbeitsinspektorat, Gewerbepolizei und Finanzpolizei.
Aktenzahl: 10 Cg 55/18f
Streitwert: EUR 19.620

Krüger:
Klage wegen einer von Krüger selbst verlangten, aber seiner Meinung nach nicht korrekt erfolgten „Gegendarstellung“ im Forum dietiwag.org. In der ersten Instanz hat das Landesgericht Innsbruck am 16.5.2018 gegen Krüger entschieden, der jedoch in Berufung gegangen ist.
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Copper!
Copper is needed to prevent anemia, histamine intolerance, high cholesterol, and osteoporosis, probably helps with allergies, and is needed to make you feel good overall. There’s a dark side to its toxicity, but more likely you need more copper than less.
Tune in for everything you need to know about how to manage your copper status!
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Zinc for heavy metals: https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/2018/11/01/zinc-heavy-metals/
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Here’s a much more detailed page about copper: https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/2017/02/03/manage-copper-status/
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For everything from anemia, to headaches, to allergies, to having healthy bones, and just feeling great all the time, copper is an incredibly important nutrient. And this is how to know if you’re getting enough.
Hi. I’m Dr. Chris Masterjohn of chrismasterjohnphd.com. And this is Chris Masterjohn Lite, where the name of the game is “Details? Shmeetails. Just tell me what works!”
And today we’re going to talk about how to manage your copper status, make sure that you get enough, not too much, and fix any problems and make sure that whatever your solutions are, they’re working.
So copper, when you do not have enough, you can get anemia that looks just like iron deficiency anemia but isn’t, or that looks just like B12 and folate deficiency anemia but isn’t. In fact, you can get malabsorption of iron from copper deficiency that actually causes iron deficiency, and the problem might not be that you don’t have enough iron in your diet, it might be that you’re not getting enough copper in your diet to absorb the iron, so you could have anemia from that as well as the many other problems of iron deficiency itself.
You can have low white blood cells, especially neutrophils. You can have high cholesterol, you could get osteoporosis because copper is needed to support your bones. You could get histamine intolerance or a greater burden of allergies than you would otherwise have. You could have poor pigmentation of your skin and hair, and neurotransmitter imbalances, like low adrenaline or high serotonin, that might leave you feeling like you’re not your best. So what do you do about this? Well, the first thing is look at your diet and see whether the dietary pattern that you have is supporting getting enough copper.
The absolute best sources of copper are liver, oysters, shiitake mushrooms, pure chocolate, not the stuff watered down with sugar and milk, and spirulina.
A tier below that of very good sources of copper are most shellfish besides oysters, remember oysters are the best, whole grains, legumes, and potatoes. Diets that are low in these foods are likely to contribute to a copper deficiency, but soil variation is very large, and all these foods, if they’re grown in low-copper soil, could be much less likely to give you enough copper.
And if you’re consuming—if you’re not consuming enough of those foods and you are consuming foods from copper-deficient soils, then that makes you very predisposed to copper deficiency. Zinc supplementation, especially over 45 milligrams a day and with a zinc-to-copper ratio greater than 15-to-1, can be a cause of copper deficiency. Impaired methylation can be a cause of copper deficiency, and I’ll link in the description of this episode to my methylation resources.
Other sources of copper deficiency that are not dietary in nature include the use of antacids, proton pump inhibitors, gastric bypass surgery, and any digestive problems that are focused on the upper part of the GI tract, like the stomach and the upper part of the small intestine. And although there’s limited evidence for this, it seems to be the case that high doses of vitamin C can impair copper absorption. On the other hand, there is copper toxicity.
In general, from diet I do not believe copper toxicity is a concern. If you are supplementing with copper over 10 milligrams, that could pose a potential risk of copper toxicity. I think it’s best to keep copper supplements under 10 milligrams, preferably under 3 milligrams a day, and it’s always best to get your copper from food, and when you do, you’re benefitting by the fact that the copper is mixed with other minerals, especially zinc, which protects against copper toxicity. So it’s extremely unlikely to get copper toxicity from food.
There are high copper levels in certain water systems, but when they get to the point where they can cause copper toxicity, usually drinking that water is going to make you nauseated, and it’s usually leaving blue colors all over the place. If it’s really bad, you can see the blue even coming out in your clothing. And so usually you have a warning sign, and certainly using a water filter will generally protect you against too much copper coming from your water supply.
The most important test of copper status is serum copper. This can be supplemented with serum ceruloplasmin. They tend to go together, and so you’re usually not getting additional information by combining them. And serum copper tends to be more sensitive to deficiency, so you always want to at least get serum copper, but it can be helpful to corroborate it with serum ceruloplasmin. But always get serum copper. Give that the priority.
In general, low serum copper and low serum ceruloplasmin indicate a copper deficiency most of the time. From what I’ve seen, I think you want to tend to be in the middle of the range because I have seen indications of copper deficiency when people are in the lower 20 or 30 percent of the range.
It’s important to note a couple of limitations to these tests. First of all, estrogen increases serum ceruloplasmin and tends to increase serum copper as well, and that means that there’s going to be some fluctuation of copper levels with the menstrual cycle. And copper levels are generally twice as high during pregnancy as they are for women who are not pregnant.
And using hormone replacement therapy, estrogen in HRT can raise copper levels by 30 to 90 percent. And unfortunately, there really isn’t any clear research to develop a separate reference range for women experiencing high estrogen under these conditions, so what we can say is that if your copper levels are running a little high and you can explain it with estrogen, you can probably dismiss it because it’s normal. It’s probably all the more true in women than in men that you want to be at least towards the middle of the range for copper because if you’re at the low end of the range, and that might be close to deficiency, that’s all the more true if you would expect your estrogen levels to be bringing the copper up higher.
There are two genetic disorders of copper metabolism: Menkes disease and Wilson’s disease. Both of these can look like copper deficiency because the serum copper levels and ceruloplasmin levels can be low, but you can have copper overload in certain specific tissues, and which tissues those are is different for Menkes disease and Wilson’s disease. But measuring urine copper can be very useful in identifying these diseases because usually the urine copper is elevated in those diseases despite the low serum levels.
So, those are the rare caveats to serum copper being the most useful test, but urine copper can often distinguish those diseases from the typical picture. If you identify a copper deficiency, the best thing to do is to solve it at the root of the problem. In some cases, that might be due to an absorption problem, and it might be due to excessive supplementation of zinc or high doses of vitamin C. If so, you want to work on removing those problems. If the problem is a dietary one because you’re not consuming enough copper-rich foods, then the overwhelmingly best thing to do is to work the copper-rich foods into your diet. Again, those are liver, oysters, shiitake mushrooms, chocolate, and spirulina as the very top foods. And the other good sources include most non-oyster shellfish, whole grains, legumes, and potatoes. So eat more of those foods.
This is especially important because although there’s not a ton of evidence around it, the copper that you get from foods is a different form than what you get in supplements. Usually the—to be technical about it, the oxidation state is different. And it appears to be the case that the food copper is the ideal form that is utilized much more effectively, and that means that you’re always going to get a better deal from getting copper in foods than you are from supplements.
With that said, there are case reports out there making it very clear that 7 milligrams of copper from a supplement over the course of a few months is highly effective at curing the anemia or the low white blood cells that occur in copper deficiency. And so certainly, if you cannot get your copper levels up with food, supplements are an effective means of fixing the deficiency.
True copper toxicity is very unlikely outside of extreme over-supplementation, or consuming highly polluted waters, or the genetic diseases that, Menkes and Wilson’s disease that can lead to copper toxicity in certain tissues.
In the case of true copper toxicity, working with a health care practitioner through chelation therapy is the necessary course of action. In most cases, if you have a reason to suspect a mild overload of copper from overuse of supplements in the past, I think the best thing to do is to use zinc supplementation to get your zinc levels up along the lines of how I described doing so for toxic heavy metals, and I’ll link to that episode in the description of this one.

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